Is this the end of Evine?

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Re: Is this the end of Evine?

Post by temerityb » Sun May 05, 2019 5:24 pm

svaglic wrote:
JAS1125 wrote:
temerityb wrote:. Maybe Lalo will re-hire people like Skelton and turn Evine into Invicta Live, the only 24-hour TV crap watch network.
My meaningless prediction: The whole operation goes dark by November.


You do have to wonder a bit if the 24/7 Invicta will come true.
With Lalo in this new role, how can they do any other shows featuring Seiko, Croton, Casio without him screaming conflict of interest?


Eyal wants the dolla. He sold his granny out to the Russians to make that dolla. He will do and say what ever it takes and if that doesn’t work he will open shopnbc up to the mob for money laundering.


Or something close to it. Yeah, that's the ticket - scarf up dollars from TV watch buyers selling defective crud, loophole your way to success, and then buy the beleaguered store that sells the crud. Sure seems like a worthy, reputable company to invest in, by golly. I guess you can report facts, uncover falsehoods, prove the constant ruse, yet some will still prefer to lay down with pigs.
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Re: Is this the end of Evine?

Post by Hater » Mon May 06, 2019 4:26 am

temerityb wrote: I guess you can report facts, uncover falsehoods, prove the constant ruse, yet some will still prefer to lay down with pigs.


I feel for the pigs.
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Re: Is this the end of Evine?

Post by GeorgeH » Mon May 06, 2019 4:17 pm

. I guess you can report facts, uncover falsehoods, prove the constant ruse, yet some will still prefer to lay down with pigs.

I have a feeling that some WL DNA is leaking into this forum and I am not happy about it. Some people hate Invicta and others love Invicta and by Invicta I mean the product and the Company. I have owned over 70 Invictas and had only a major problem years ago with the Sellita SW500 movement when it first came out. I sent in the watch under warranty and got back one with a new movement which worked fine until I flipped it. I keep track of every watch I have bought and sold (432) and I can tell you that the resale percent with Invicta is weak compared to other brands. Off the top of my head have gotten back 70% back of what I paid for the 400 plus watches, but only around 50% on the Invictas. In addition to Invicta I had the pleasure of owning many fine brands, Rolex, Omega, Breitling, IWC, Seiko, etc. This is my main gripe with Invicta...poor resale. No doubt Invicta has had it's share of problems as the facts indicate. But, another fact is that Invicta has a large following and large sales. Being a private company, I have no idea of the percent of defects they have. The bottom line is that I am not about to go on an Invicta cruise or get a yellow tee shirt or state that Invicta is better than a Rolex, but I do watch Evine to see the Invicta, G-Shock, and Edox shows. I have also invested in EVLV and currently own 3 Grand Divers and a Pro Diver. I do not scuba dive, but I can tell you that I wouldn't go down 200 meters with a $90 watch not expect a problem...doesn't matter what it says on the watch. I hope no body takes this as a personal attack, on the other hand if somebody insults me because of my choice of watch or TV show they will hear about it.
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Re: Is this the end of Evine?

Post by JAS1125 » Mon May 06, 2019 4:24 pm

The difference is you're an informed consumer George. Many who blindly follow Lalo are not.

And we do have dual members here from Lords, including myself. Open and frank discussion is a good thing on any forum
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Re: Is this the end of Evine?

Post by Artman » Mon May 06, 2019 4:55 pm

As a proud member of WatchLords, I don't care what shows you watch or what watches you wear. The fellas give me crap all the time about the YouTube channels I watch and frankly I don't give a fuck. If I want to watch Urban Gentry or that Scottish dude ramble on about watches, that's what I'm going to do. I don't get Evine TV or ShopNBC on this side of the world, but if it did I'd probably watch that crap too. So George, keep doing what you do. I suggest that you just might not want take things too personally when the guys beat down on your favorite things. They have the right to voice their opinions, which actually is part of the fun around here.
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Re: Is this the end of Evine?

Post by conjurer » Mon May 06, 2019 5:08 pm

Artman wrote:
DBCooper wrote:Damn, over 70 Invictas. For real?

Yeah, owning 70 of anything could be a problem bro.


Hey! I own 71 Susan Boyle collectors plates!!
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Re: Is this the end of Evine?

Post by JAS1125 » Mon May 06, 2019 5:37 pm

DBCooper wrote:Damn, over 70 Invictas. For real?


Truth be told, I still have about 15 of the Pro Diver variants....they serve their purpose well enough
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Re: Is this the end of Evine?

Post by GeorgeH » Mon May 06, 2019 5:57 pm

Okay, Okay....I get it. At least I know somebody reads my posts and I'm not lost in the crowd. I like the new forum so I guess I'll have to put up with the crap that floats to the surface from time to time. I just won't take it personally.
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Re: Is this the end of Evine?

Post by JAS1125 » Mon May 06, 2019 5:59 pm

GeorgeH wrote:Okay, Okay....I get it. At least I know somebody reads my posts and I'm not lost in the crowd. I like the new forum so I guess I'll have to put up with the crap that floats to the surface from time to time. I just won't take it personally.



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Re: Is this the end of Evine?

Post by GeorgeH » Mon May 06, 2019 6:44 pm

DBCooper wrote:Damn, over 70 Invictas. For real?

78 to be exact
Spent about $14,000....couldn't even buy a Rolex Daytona pre-owned with $14Gs
Lupah Diver 3215
Skeleton Goldtone 3380
Round Lupah Diver 2144
Aussie Pro Diver 4348
Corduva 3446
Executive 3649
Speedway two-tone 9224
Atlantis Master Calendar 4333
Toledo Corduba Orange 3965
Vintage TA50 Auto 4324
Pro Diver 9937
Lupah w/strap collection IN4393
Gold Auto Submariner IN9618
Yachtmaster Pro Diver IN8114
Milestone 1966 Black IN5102
Baby Lupah+strap set IN 2854
Grand Diver GMT Black IN5126
S1 Racer Swiss quartz IN5690
Anatomic IN 3096
Mini Diver IN3042
Russian Diver GMT IN7215
Cadet two-Tone IN 4035
Subaqua Noma IN4572
Grand Speedway Chrono IN4218
Aussie Pro Diver IN 4352
Speedway Reserve 4355
Pro Diver Wave Black IN4469
Russian Diver Quinotaur IN4342
Subaqua Noma III Chrono IN6229
Pro Diver - Gold/Green Bezel IN6884
Reserve Bolt Chronograph IN6434
Vintage 1948 Automatic IN3779
Classique Paradise Garden IN6284
Akula Russian Mid Size IN5550
Speedway White IN9211
Reserve Combat Excursion 6474
Scuba Chonograph Silvertone IN0069
Subaqua Noma III - GMT IN0325
Pro Diver Gold Tone Auto IN6929
Lupah Espadon IN3188
Sea Excursion IN0646
Midsize Russian Mechanical IN1847
Subaqua Noma III Shot Blast IN0961
Reserve Sea Rover 10585
Pro Diver 200 M IN8926OB
Reserve Speedway IN4355
Pro Diver Gold Plated IN9743
Ocean Ghost Meteorite IN0470
Reserve Bolt Silver w/red case IN 10538
Reserve Venom Midsize IN 10805
Lupah Diver IN3210
Sea Hunter Swiss Chrono IN 1862
Subaqua Noma I Reserve IN 17679
Pro diver strap/bracelet Grn IN 11220
Corduba Revolution LE IN 18733
X-Wing Reserve IN 18726
Pro Diver Valjoux 7750 18915
Subaqua Noma IV IN 6564
Pro Diver Gold/Green IN 18506
Subaqua Noma III IN 10185
TI-22 Quartz Chrono IN 20464
Grand Diver Green Bezel IN 3047
Grand Diver-Deadliest Catch IN 21591
Pro Diver Intrinsic Ana-Digi IN 12471
S1 Rally Quartz GMT IN 21509
Russian Diver Chrono Black IN 7000
Pro Diver Intrinsic Ana-Digi IN 12470
Dragon Lupah Chrono IN 2233
Pro Diver IN 8928OB
Subaqua Noma I Reserve 19001 – 911/5000
The SUBAQUA quartz Ivory 23359-8BLU
52 mm Garfield Venom 24997-IPM260
Dragon Lupah Black Quartz IN 11321
Disney Pro Diver w/3 slot case 24607
Pro Diver Scuba Quartz Blue IN 21784
Pro Diver Ocean Voyage IN 26733
Pro Diver - Coin Edge 9937
50mm Bolt Gunmetal IN 24701
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Re: Is this the end of Evine?

Post by GeorgeH » Mon May 06, 2019 7:44 pm

Artman wrote:Good Lord, George. My wife would kill me.

Yeah...that's why I only have 4 Invictas at present.
But, we're talking about 13 years of collecting and flipping. I got back about $8,000 net or about 57%, so the actual cost was $6,000. It's the 57% that bothers me. The average for the 432 watches I flipped was 70%, so if you took out the invictas it would be a little more than 70%.
The 8 Breitlings that I owned and sold got back 77%. So yeah money wise I would have been better off with the Breitlings vs the Invictas.
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Re: Is this the end of Evine?

Post by conjurer » Mon May 06, 2019 8:25 pm

GeorgeH wrote:
DBCooper wrote:Damn, over 70 Invictas. For real?

78 to be exact
Spent about $14,000....couldn't even buy a Rolex Daytona pre-owned with $14Gs
Lupah Diver 3215
Skeleton Goldtone 3380
Round Lupah Diver 2144
Aussie Pro Diver 4348
Corduva 3446
Executive 3649
Speedway two-tone 9224
Atlantis Master Calendar 4333
Toledo Corduba Orange 3965
Vintage TA50 Auto 4324
Pro Diver 9937
Lupah w/strap collection IN4393
Gold Auto Submariner IN9618
Yachtmaster Pro Diver IN8114
Milestone 1966 Black IN5102
Baby Lupah+strap set IN 2854
Grand Diver GMT Black IN5126
S1 Racer Swiss quartz IN5690
Anatomic IN 3096
Mini Diver IN3042
Russian Diver GMT IN7215
Cadet two-Tone IN 4035
Subaqua Noma IN4572
Grand Speedway Chrono IN4218
Aussie Pro Diver IN 4352
Speedway Reserve 4355
Pro Diver Wave Black IN4469
Russian Diver Quinotaur IN4342
Subaqua Noma III Chrono IN6229
Pro Diver - Gold/Green Bezel IN6884
Reserve Bolt Chronograph IN6434
Vintage 1948 Automatic IN3779
Classique Paradise Garden IN6284
Akula Russian Mid Size IN5550
Speedway White IN9211
Reserve Combat Excursion 6474
Scuba Chonograph Silvertone IN0069
Subaqua Noma III - GMT IN0325
Pro Diver Gold Tone Auto IN6929
Lupah Espadon IN3188
Sea Excursion IN0646
Midsize Russian Mechanical IN1847
Subaqua Noma III Shot Blast IN0961
Reserve Sea Rover 10585
Pro Diver 200 M IN8926OB
Reserve Speedway IN4355
Pro Diver Gold Plated IN9743
Ocean Ghost Meteorite IN0470
Reserve Bolt Silver w/red case IN 10538
Reserve Venom Midsize IN 10805
Lupah Diver IN3210
Sea Hunter Swiss Chrono IN 1862
Subaqua Noma I Reserve IN 17679
Pro diver strap/bracelet Grn IN 11220
Corduba Revolution LE IN 18733
X-Wing Reserve IN 18726
Pro Diver Valjoux 7750 18915
Subaqua Noma IV IN 6564
Pro Diver Gold/Green IN 18506
Subaqua Noma III IN 10185
TI-22 Quartz Chrono IN 20464
Grand Diver Green Bezel IN 3047
Grand Diver-Deadliest Catch IN 21591
Pro Diver Intrinsic Ana-Digi IN 12471
S1 Rally Quartz GMT IN 21509
Russian Diver Chrono Black IN 7000
Pro Diver Intrinsic Ana-Digi IN 12470
Dragon Lupah Chrono IN 2233
Pro Diver IN 8928OB
Subaqua Noma I Reserve 19001 – 911/5000
The SUBAQUA quartz Ivory 23359-8BLU
52 mm Garfield Venom 24997-IPM260
Dragon Lupah Black Quartz IN 11321
Disney Pro Diver w/3 slot case 24607
Pro Diver Scuba Quartz Blue IN 21784
Pro Diver Ocean Voyage IN 26733
Pro Diver - Coin Edge 9937
50mm Bolt Gunmetal IN 24701


Dang. I can't remember what I ate for breakfast this morning.
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Re: Is this the end of Evine?

Post by GeorgeH » Tue May 07, 2019 1:33 am

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GeorgeH wrote:Okay, Okay....I get it. At least I know somebody reads my posts and I'm not lost in the crowd. I like the new forum so I guess I'll have to put up with the crap that floats to the surface from time to time. I just won't take it personally.



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Re: Is this the end of Evine?

Post by GeorgeH » Wed May 08, 2019 2:04 pm

Tim Peterman, CEO of Evine, said, “I look forward to working with Bob and his team during a collaborative transition. We have a great company today, and I believe we have a very bright future. As Bob knows, our vision for the company remains fundamentally unchanged; I look forward to working with the team and the Board on new growth strategies and expect to have further details on such strategies in the near term.”

I am looking forward to the new growth strategies. They have until July 15 to get back to $1 to be in compliance with NASDAQ Listing.

We'll see what happens. Although EVLV is only 1% of my total portfolio I will be watching it closely.
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Re: Is this the end of Evine?

Post by Hater » Fri May 10, 2019 8:09 am

1% of your entire portfolio is with that shopping network??? Really?
I suppose it would make sense trying to keep that place afloat.

Staying on topic; do people really purchase wristwatches (from wherever) and monitor their return on investments?
That is a new one on me and I shutter to know how my watch "investments" purchases equate to a profit and losses over the many years.
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Re: Is this the end of Evine?

Post by svaglic » Fri May 10, 2019 11:34 am

I’ve never sold a watch, I usually trade them, gift them to someone or give them to Conj for the benefit auctions. I guess my return is zilch.
After I die I have no doubt my family will sell everything, but I won’t know what they brought.
It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
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