The official Renato Forum (renatogeeks.com) is DEAD

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Re: The official Renato Forum (renatogeeks.com) is DEAD

Post by Guest » Wed May 02, 2012 1:34 pm

Maestro, in your opinion, why are they shutting it down?
I must be a fool, because I believe their reasoning.
Why? Because the forum never really took off. It seemed as if they wanted to get back into social media, but didn't really know where to start. So, they went back to the "forum" and soon realized it wasn't working.
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Re: The official Renato Forum (renatogeeks.com) is DEAD

Post by Guest » Wed May 02, 2012 5:14 pm

Actually, facebook and twitter are real good marketing tools.
I enjoy forums, because I'm old school, but the more common social platforms are taking over. It's an evolution and we'll all have to adjust to it sooner or later, I think.
With that said, I have full confidence Neddles (with our help) will make this the one-stop-shop for Renato info good and bad. I'm looking forward to it.
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Re: The official Renato Forum (renatogeeks.com) is DEAD

Post by Guest » Thu May 03, 2012 4:39 am

How so? The only supporter that I saw who acted like a dbag was that six2twelve guy. The rest seemed genuinely interested in keeping the forum active and alive.
He and a few other guys seemed to be the biggest nuisances on the forum, with all of their childish back and forth bullshit.

I use both Twitter and Facebook and the last time I checked, I was an adult male. I don't understand the hate. Have you ever used either platform?
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Re: The official Renato Forum (renatogeeks.com) is DEAD

Post by Guest » Thu May 03, 2012 11:10 am

Mortuus wrote: Of course, I keep coming back to the way Avi "handled" the mini-controversy of supposed trolls from WL stirring the pot on RG. Ultimately, she took the mongo-like course of indiscriminately banning a number of "suspicious" members, including our very own Fearless Leader ( :face: ), Mrneds.

Hi Mortus - Avi didn't ban anyone but spammers. There was a glitch in the system that unfortunately ended up banning a few people for whatever reason. Prior to me taking the moderator job there, Koi had told me mrneddles was banned and then I had corresponded with mrneddles about it. When I mentioned it to Avi she told me to immediately take the ban off as it was a glitch. I had just "unbanned" mrneddles right before the forum ended up shutting down.

What you see as their reason for shutting down is for the most part accurate but it was also due to the amount of time it was going to take to get the forum up and running to where it should have been and building up a fan base. MZB was the final decision maker in closing down the forum as it was their forum.

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Re: The official Renato Forum (renatogeeks.com) is DEAD

Post by Guest » Thu May 03, 2012 5:42 pm

I'm a member of the RG Facbook Group and it's not all fanbois, trust me. There's PLENTY of serious critics in there.
Not everyone gushes over every watch or every word spoken by Renato.
In fact, there has been quite a few occasions where members in that group have downright bashed Renato on many issues. No banning takes place and no name calling childish bullshit takes place either. It's actually a well ran group.
It's a closed group, from what I understand, because they didn't want trollish behavior. I think that's understandable.
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Re: The official Renato Forum (renatogeeks.com) is DEAD

Post by Guest » Fri May 04, 2012 4:06 am

I'm seeing a lot of negativity toward members of other forums. I can understand six2twelve, but why the hate for the other guys?
I never saw anything on the RG forum that would warrant such.
Maybe I'm ill-informed. Can someone enlighten me?
I'm trying to look at things objectively and not jump on any sort of "I hate those guys or I hate this" mentality. I just don't roll that way.

We're supposed to be "Fair and Even". Right?
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Re: The official Renato Forum (renatogeeks.com) is DEAD

Post by Guest » Fri May 04, 2012 5:32 pm

Hater wrote:
Stormchaser wrote:I'm seeing a lot of negativity toward members of other forums. I can understand six2twelve, but why the hate for the other guys?
Please point out the hate above??? Just because someone doesn't want to do the social thing with certain people doesn't mean that person is spewing hatred. The group hug thing isn't for everyone, but happy you favor them.
I never saw anything on the RG forum that would warrant such.
Warrant what?
Maybe I'm ill-informed. That is possible. Can someone enlighten me? Probably not (the forum died for the second time) and for the record, I'm still laughing my ass off over that.
I'm trying to look at things objectively and not jump on any sort of "I hate those guys or I hate this" mentality. Excellent, that is always the best route to take.

We're supposed to be "Fair and Even". Right? Says who??
I'll light a fire so everyone that wants to can roast marshmallows and sing Kumbaya. Fortunately I can't make it but will get the fire going all the same.

Maybe "hate" was the wrong word. Extreme or unwarranted criticism might have been more appropriate. I just don't understand it is all. I'm not suggesting we sing kumbaya and hold hands, I'm just wondering why there seems to be such animosity between groups.
This is what I dislike about forums and some social interactions. People take things a little too seriously and it leaves others scratching their heads wondering why people get so emotional about things.
I've tried to always steer clear of such nonsense, personally. It doesn't really accomplish anything and I don't care for bandwagons.

As for who said things should be "fair and even", that was Neddles., the Admin.

And why exactly are you "laughing your ass off" that the RG forum went down? Why would that be funny? I'm not being facetious, I simply don't understand the statement. Is there something I'm missing? Were you wronged there by someone? Did Avi ban you? I'm genuinely curious.

Thanks.







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Re: The official Renato Forum (renatogeeks.com) is DEAD

Post by Guest » Sat May 05, 2012 2:19 pm

I didn't come here to argue or to get into some debate over forums, facebook or Renato. I just asked a few simple questions.

The "fair and even" issue I was referring to was what appeared to be a jab at members of RG and the FB page that, from my perspective, didn't deserve it. That's why I asked if I was missing something or if someone could enlighten me.

If you find fault in that, I can't help it. It was an honest question. Trust me, I wear big boy pants but choose not to deal with nonsense if I don't have to.

As for the "fanbois" as you put it, I saw just as much venom coming from both sides. So, to put blame on one side is disingenuous.

The fanbois didn't like the mocking and the "supposed" watchlords guys didn't like being told not to mock. It went both ways from what I saw. Six2twelve from the fanbois side and then there Eyal's Dog Mikey & you (Hater) pushing right back. It was FAR from one sided. I find it interesting you blame the fanbois for the demise of RG 1&2 and they blame you and a few others for the same demise.
Assumptions and perceptions... funny things they are. Being in the middle and watching it all was "educational". :shock:

I think Neddles said it best; when there's an overreaction, there's probably a deeper seeded issue.

Again, I didn't come here to argue or debate, just asking questions to get a better understanding of why people think the way they do.
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